Yaskawa fault record

GF / Start-command trip: GF Indication and Protection-Path Misdiagnosis

A 616G3 drive powers normally but trips on the run command, or low-energy test indications suggest a short after IGBT replacement.

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Scope of this technical record

Fault-or-symptom route for GF/start-command behaviour and post-repair misdiagnosis risk.

Safety boundary

Do not disable protection or use uncontrolled energisation to force a diagnosis.

Symptom interpretation

A drive that powers normally but faults immediately after a run command can have an external earth fault, output-stage defect, gate-drive/protection issue or a misinterpreted controlled-test response. The reviewed 616G3 evidence is especially useful because it documents a current path created by protection components that can be mistaken for a shorted module.

Evidence route

Start-command fault routing

CheckWhy it matters
Motor/cable isolationExclude real external earth/short fault
Module and driver evidenceIdentify destructive or repeat-failure cause
Suppression-network presenceInterpret lamp-test current correctly
Balanced output under controlled testingSeparate false indication from true power-stage fault

Repair boundary

If a qualified technician cannot prove driver integrity and protection restoration, the outcome is bench assessment, not another replacement module or a disabled fault input. A searchable page is useful only when it reduces unsafe guessing.

Why this case is a diagnostic lesson rather than a repair shortcut

The 616G3 case is important because it describes a genuine interpretation error: lamp illumination after a start command was initially taken as evidence that a replacement output module remained shorted. Inspection of the main-circuit suppression arrangement showed that MS1250D225P and MS1250D225N devices together with an external 10 ohm, 80 W element created a legitimate current path. After accounting for that network, balanced unloaded output was observed.

The lesson is not that a bright lamp can be ignored. The lesson is that protected high-power inverter circuits may contain intentional paths that change the meaning of a low-energy test. A technician must read the circuit, identify the suppression and reverse-current paths, and correlate the test with phase-output balance and driver condition before condemning a new module.

Interpretation of a restricted-energy test

ObservationUnsafe conclusionRequired interpretation step
Series lamp becomes bright after run requestNew IGBT is definitely shortedCheck whether suppression/snubber path legitimately conducts
Lamp remains dark before modulationEntire output stage is healthyDriver and protection conditions are still unproven
Balanced unloaded phase output after verified testMachine is ready for serviceOriginal cause and protection restoration must still be proven
Repeated fault or abnormal phase behaviourTry again at full powerStop and reassess driver/power-stage linkage

Module failure and driver failure must be treated as a pair

The associated repair material states that an exploded inverter module can damage the driver circuit, and a faulty driver circuit can in turn destroy a replacement module. That relationship changes the economics of repair: fitting an expensive IGBT module without driver evidence may simply buy a second failure. Relevant evidence includes phase-channel comparison, gate-drive support supply condition, protective path integrity and signs of damaged optocouplers, zener components or small capacitors.

For public documentation, IndustrialDriveData uses this case to build a safer verification route: preserve the observed symptom, establish the circuit feature that can mimic a short under restricted-energy testing, verify the driver/protection branch, and refer high-energy proving to a qualified repair environment. This is more useful than a generic instruction to replace the power module.

GF or start-command fault intake requirements

A case that faults at start command should capture the exact display, recent work, output-circuit status and whether a restricted-energy test was used. Because the reviewed case demonstrates an intentional suppression-path current, a lamp observation alone is insufficient to condemn the replacement module. The context of the fault and the circuit feature must be recorded together.

Where the drive has visible damage, repeat fault, unexplained phase imbalance or unverified driver circuitry, the safe route is specialist evaluation rather than repeated attempts. This is the point at which a structured database page can materially reduce misdiagnosis and unnecessary replacement cost.

Technical basis and reference documents

This is an independent editorial technical reference. Original manufacturer documentation remains controlling for installation, repair and commissioning decisions.

616G3 55 kW main circuit and repair-analysis recordIndustrialDriveData technical review

Reviewed protection/suppression and controlled post-repair interpretation material; original source is not redistributed.

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